The Truth About Marriage in Ministry: It’s Messy, But It’s Worth It | CSAT Podcast — Ep. 15

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What happens when ministry nearly breaks your marriage? In this honest and hope-filled conversation, we sit down with Todd and Debbie McIntyre, co-hosts of the Living Mess podcast, to unpack what it really looks like to stay married and in ministry — when life gets hard, messy, and downright overwhelming.


From emotional distance to divine restoration, Todd and Debbie share the raw moments most couples hide — and the grace that brought them through. Whether you're married, dating, or still waiting on your spouse, this episode will give you hope, tools, and the faith to keep going when ministry feels like it’s too much.

• Real talk. Real struggles. Real faith.
• Get ready to be encouraged, challenged, and inspired to fight for love — even in the mess.





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Todd and Debbie McIntyre


Check out their website: Living Messy – www.livingmessy.com (www.livingmessy.com/)


 Email: Debbie.mcintyre@ymail.com (mailto:Debbie.mcintyre@ymail.com)


tmcintyre@victoryatl.com (mailto:tmcintyre@victoryatl.com)






Guest Bio: Todd and Debbie McIntyre have been married for 31 years. They have three adult children Samantha, Hannah and Jack who is married to Karla. Todd is the Senior Executive Pastor of Ministries at Victory Church in Atlanta, Georgia. Todd and Debbie have just published two new books entitled The Lost Treasure of Masculinity and Strong Woman, One Fear. Prior to working at Victory Church, Todd led a large Men’s Ministry in Dallas, Texas where he oversaw thousands of men being discipled in Christ. He has also trained churches around the world helping them understand how to reach the heart of men. 


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